I'm really a child of Asia. I was, my dad did India five years. My very first memories are in India. I was the only white kid. We were the only Americans, only white folk there, really. And it was really kind of an amazing experience for me as a child to grow up in that central India, 118 degrees in the summer, no air conditioning. And, you know, we were just oddities. But I had a lot of, I spoke Hindi. Didn't take me very long. You're a kid. And I can remember, I can remember my sister was blond and blue eyed, and they were mesmerized, the villagers were, they’d just want to touch hair hair and touch her skin because she was so odd. You know, that away.

And, so when I was 16, we decided to come back. I was at A&M Consolidated and I was 16. And the very first day - this shows you how humility is built into a person. My parents were not very woke or clued in, and they let me go to A&M Consolidated, and this was 1965, 66. They let me go in the clothes that I wore when I was in India, which was shorts, white shirt with a pocket, and I had a pocket organizer. Slide rule. You know, had a scabbard. Had socks and brown patent leather shoes, and I had this British accent. And before - and I was, I didn't know anybody. I didn't know a soul at A&M Consolidated.

And I'll never forget it. I was, had my books and I was just scared to death. And there was a fellow, a bully, a kid. His name was Sammy Kattner. And I haven't forgotten him because he had me on the ground between his legs, he was choking the life out of me because that's what high school kids do with somebody that's weird. I guess.

So I was really upset with mom and dad, and the next day I had blue jeans, t shirt, US kids, and I was, you know, I was trying to look normal and everything. And so basically, that was kind of an education for me